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[the unlucky platypus]

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Jon, have you read Derren Brown's book? My guess is yes
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actually i don't have any atheist literature. i've listened to a few lectures/presentations from different people like dawkins and hitchens but little more than that.

i read a lot of history and the tie-ins with archeology, though. normally just through various news articles or information sites. i also try to look at both sides but the religious side is normally so outright wrong in their assertions and claims and trying to debunk science. it's very hard to give any credit to them other than that they know how to bullshit and trick simple people into believing what they say. i mean they'll just blatantly disregard studies and information or misrepresent information and not give a full picture. it's hard to even start to say "you know? maybe these guys are on to something" because they're wrong so frequently and refuse to admit when they're wrong or when they have misrepresented science's studies and findings.

and the lazy thing is just a simple observation that i've seen. people who don't want to think about the mechanics of something just call it god instead. there's almost no discernible difference at times from the greeks and romans who had gods for everything except it's all consolidated into one god with the judeo-muslim-christian religions.

and fuck people's "beliefs" when there is facts to say otherwise. it's not an opinion if you're wrong. a belief/opinion is "the new goldfinger still sucks as hard as the old goldfinger". that's an opinion. "children growing up in homosexual households grow up corrupt" or some variant thereof is simply wrong. likewise the claim "there is a god" means nothing. it's a statement of some kind of presence so therefore, it is trying to state a fact, not opinion. that's like saying "all black folk are all criminals" and that one has more evidence towards it too! but it's an incorrect statement based on faulty logic and a lack of the full picture. god existing doesn't even have as much evidence towards it as the racist statement!

same with scientologists and mormons too but i normally don't bother with those because they're so new that the old establishment within the religious market normally does a good enough job attacking and debunking them. too bad they're too afraid to turn such a mirror on themselves.